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Games like hellgate?
« on: Oct 21, 2015; 04:24 PM »

Now that global is gone, what games are exactly like hellgate , offline and online?

Here's what i own: Hellgate london, fate rpg games by wild tangent , torchlight 1 and 2 . That's all i can think of atm. AIon is coming to steam, but does it have random items drops like hg?

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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #1 on: Oct 22, 2015; 04:21 AM »
In my opinion I'd give the game Grim Dawn a try for something similar to Hellgate. It's got this charm about it with tons of random loot and amazing character building. Game also takes place in a Victorian era apocalypse of all things. The map is not randomly generated however, but as a good action RPG with the vibes of Hellgate, Diablo, and Titan Quest all kindof thrown together in a very coherent way I'd say it's worth a shot.
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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #2 on: Oct 24, 2015; 02:06 AM »
Marvel Heroes is by some of the same people that did Hellgate, if you're up for an ARPG that has marvel super heroes.  It uses the classic click to move/isometric view though, not the FPS/over the shoulder view that Hellgate had going for it.  It's free to play, so you don't have much to lose for playing it beyond the download time and hard drive space.
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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #3 on: Oct 24, 2015; 07:11 AM »
The first borderlands. The second is alright. though the drops aren't as good. The third is only any good is you are serious fan. The melee is extremely limited. At least as far as the controls for melee weren't very well thought out.

That is the only game I can think of with lots of similarities. Just the stories are vastly different. All the weapons are highly random though. At least in the first one. They kinda killed the randomization system and proc damage in the other two. It is first person only, pretty much. It is mostly a shooter with some viable melee too. A little more open then Hellgate though. Hellgate always had a caged feel for most the stages. Borderlands their are still walls. they just aren't there. So it feels more open and larger.

Also in the second two their are perma procs. It is possible to be perma slagged and not even be able to tell in the second one. Even though everything still does double damage. In the third you can be slowed by cryo weapons until you reload the game. It is extremely rare. yet under the right set of events it happens.

Worth checking out the first one though. and on sale it costs next to nothing for the whole thing.

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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #4 on: Oct 26, 2015; 01:51 AM »

 Already download the marvel game on steam, wasn't too bad about 25GB+ . Thanks for that one.

Grim dawn, so far I'm enjoying it. Thanks :) I also have titan quest :)

Borderlands , sorry I'm not a fan of. I play defiance its a better game with random drops as well. I just like defiance way better. But thanks anyway.

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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #5 on: Oct 26, 2015; 07:45 PM »

 Already download the marvel game on steam, wasn't too bad about 25GB+ . Thanks for that one.

Grim dawn, so far I'm enjoying it. Thanks :) I also have titan quest :)

Borderlands , sorry I'm not a fan of. I play defiance its a better game with random drops as well. I just like defiance way better. But thanks anyway.

I looked up defiance. I am not much for online games. The devs  of all the ones I tried tend to be cash hungry and uncaring about their patrons. As long as the money keeps rolling in they are happy. I will add it to my list of games to play though. If it is anything like borderlands then it might be worth checking out.

I am mostly playing minecraft nowadays. Every now and again I get burnt out on it though. It will give me something to look into when that happens. Thanks

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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #6 on: Oct 27, 2015; 12:20 AM »
the game I tend to play the most nowadays is D2 with a slew of mods. they pretty much make it a new game esp the one that I'm beta testing for its called Le Royaume Des Ombres its is a complete and total conversion give that one a spin if you want to try something new and interesting.

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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #7 on: Oct 29, 2015; 10:31 PM »
i'm playing Firefall - it's not the same as Hellgate, but it feels good as an MMORPG openworld shooter with instances and such. i like how it is more of a shooter than RPG and how easy it is to switch builds. there are much more things i can say about it, but those are the most important ones that i could think of.
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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #8 on: Oct 30, 2015; 06:54 AM »
firefall is fun but if you don't have anyone to play with it gets old like anything else

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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #9 on: Oct 30, 2015; 06:00 PM »
the game I tend to play the most nowadays is D2 with a slew of mods. they pretty much make it a new game esp the one that I'm beta testing for its called Le Royaume Des Ombres its is a complete and total conversion give that one a spin if you want to try something new and interesting.

D2 with mods is good, especially the inventory expansion one. Why some games insist on so small an inventory is a mystery.
Sure, we can't carry 37 shields and 17 battleaxes, 12 swords and 52 pots of healing potion in real life... but the game isn't real life, it's a GAME, meant to be FUN, not a chore.

As an aside... your mention of D2 took me on another train of thought:

The "crippling" of games.

D2 is great, fun..  D3 is.. well... lets say "less so" - it's been dumbed down for console people.

And it continues - remember the older game "Overlord"?  Where you sweep your evil minion creatures with both left and right mouse buttons, two-clicks and swwp them to where you want them to act.

It didn't always work but it felt like they were being a little obstructive, sarcastic, deliberately misunderstanding the orders just to be "evil".

Now there's a new version of Overlord - pretty graphics but the minions creatures are automatic-acting. Dumbed down, yet again.
You can tell them to go somewhere by holding the shift key and clicking on a location (restricted to special sites, wheels, turn tables, etc) - but it feels clunky and anti-intuitive.

It feels, frankly, like a console-pad control converted to keyboard.



I understand this - the devs don;t want to waste time and money with special versions, one for PS4, one for XBone (LOL @ that name), one for PCs.

But it's still wrong...

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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #10 on: Oct 30, 2015; 08:53 PM »
the older we get the more things seem to be watered down to the point of hur mer gurd its to easy where has the brutal days of the nes gone? where some of the game you practicaly had to cheat to win. now its the opposite lol.

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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #11 on: Oct 30, 2015; 08:57 PM »
with D3 you can play for a little bit but it gets old fast. the expansion was the best thing to happen to it but its still nowhere near as good as D2.

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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #12 on: Oct 31, 2015; 01:43 AM »
There's also Sacred gold, Sacred 2 gold.
The Dungeon Siege series. fantasy isometric games.

Greed: black border http://store.steampowered.com/app/46400/
Harbinger. link to demo: http://www.gamershell.com/download_1499.shtml
Space hack. http://store.steampowered.com/app/315260/
Those three are science fiction arpgs.

The Incredible adventures of Van helsing series. steam punk european fantasy. http://store.steampowered.com/app/215530/

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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #13 on: Oct 31, 2015; 06:06 PM »
the older we get the more things seem to be watered down to the point of hur mer gurd its to easy where has the brutal days of the nes gone? where some of the game you practicaly had to cheat to win. now its the opposite lol.

An interesting point.

The graphics weren't enough to fully engage a person so the game play itself had to - ad we made up our own graphics in our heads.

As graphic became better and better to game itself suffered (not always, granted).

Now we have games that look like fantasy-science reality, fully modelled physics and space flight, exoskeletons and dragon-calls... and the magic is missing, the game drive the gamer rather than the other way around.

Maybe people are... um..  dumber, simpler, more basic of thought (the success of the utter CRAP of RealityTV bears that idea out) - and the games are designed for the market.

No point making a complex and interwoven game when no one will buy it becasue it's too hard or convoluted for them.

(That sort of explains why games like Beyond Good and Evil failed, Psychonauts, et al)

There's also Sacred gold, Sacred 2 gold.
The Dungeon Siege series. fantasy isometric games.

Greed: black border http://store.steampowered.com/app/46400/
Harbinger. link to demo: http://www.gamershell.com/download_1499.shtml
Space hack. http://store.steampowered.com/app/315260/
Those three are science fiction arpgs.

The Incredible adventures of Van helsing series. steam punk european fantasy. http://store.steampowered.com/app/215530/

Also, look up Victor Vran - it's like Van Helsing, as good as VH 1, far better than VH3
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Re: Games like hellgate?
« Reply #14 on: Oct 31, 2015; 07:53 PM »
you could say that the only thing that matters for games now is how much eye candy there is everything else is secondary or not and option....