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Dangerseeker

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Running SP leads into infinite Black screen
« on: Dec 27, 2017; 10:55 PM »
Hi folks. I am new here because I read about Revival some days ago. I loved the game in the old days and it is amazing, what the Revival team managed to get out of the game.

Yesterday i tried to run Hellgate after about nine years or so. My plan was to start the singleplayer part with the Revival content. I followed the tutorial of how to run HGL from Bryan, called "Revival: Modding Hellgate London SP, tutorial #2 ("new" launcher)" on YouTube. Thank you so far for all the engagement.
But when it comes to the point, where you start the SP-game for the first time, I only get a Black screen, but the Flagship intro does not start. Same with the game itself. After tabbing out, I can see the square formed picture of the female templar in the background of my desktop and that´s it. Nothing more to do, just restart the CPU. Has anybody here a tip for me, why the game won´t start, please?

I have an original collectors edition of Hellgate London. Can that lead to issues, running the game on Windows 8.1?

Greetings, Dangerseeker

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Re: Running SP leads into infinite Black screen
« Reply #1 on: Dec 28, 2017; 04:32 PM »
Hi folks. I am new here because I read about Revival some days ago. I loved the game in the old days and it is amazing, what the Revival team managed to get out of the game.

Yesterday i tried to run Hellgate after about nine years or so. My plan was to start the singleplayer part with the Revival content. I followed the tutorial of how to run HGL from Bryan, called "Revival: Modding Hellgate London SP, tutorial #2 ("new" launcher)" on YouTube. Thank you so far for all the engagement.
But when it comes to the point, where you start the SP-game for the first time, I only get a Black screen, but the Flagship intro does not start. Same with the game itself. After tabbing out, I can see the square formed picture of the female templar in the background of my desktop and that´s it. Nothing more to do, just restart the CPU. Has anybody here a tip for me, why the game won´t start, please?

I have an original collectors edition of Hellgate London. Can that lead to issues, running the game on Windows 8.1?

Greetings, Dangerseeker

I MIGHT be able to help.

I play two mods (separately), Nagahaku and (forgot the other, I thinks it's Revival) - and one of them starts up properly, the other starts to a black screen.

Just hit the enter key about three times (once to stop the movie, the next to start singleplayer, the third to get to the character selection window)

Don't rush it - enter, pause... and so on.

Then the last enter key press should have about a 3-5 second wait and the character window will display as normal.

I have to do that every time for just that one mod - dunno why, it's all installed properly.

Try it - it might work for you too

Other options to try:

Run as administrator
Run in Win7 compatibility mode (I saw you are on 8.1)
Check you AV isn't blocking a file

Also - if you use Kaspersky AV and any other that checks system files and device usage - I sometimes get a hidden window (with other games) from Kaspersky that says

"XYZ is trying to receive an audio channel(s), Do you wish to allow this?"

But you don't see it because the game is full screen.

Possible answers.... try the "hit enter three times" one first, then "run as admin" if that donna work.

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Re: Running SP leads into infinite Black screen
« Reply #2 on: Dec 29, 2017; 10:05 AM »
Thank you Morphy for the tips. Today i wanted to do as you told me, but today the compatibility mode i used the other day offered me the option Windows XP (service pack 3). This option was not available some days ago, idk why. But it ran perfectly in XP mode.

Now I am looking for mods to install. Is there any mod that comes preferably near to the original content from HGL, Stonehenge, maybe Abyss and HG Tokyo/Global too? Because i am not a big fan of to much modding in an unnatural direction, away from the basic game. For example, i saw a video where several Moloch bosses ran somewhere in the "wild" maps. That reminds me of theese Minecraft kids with their modded worlds, where they just need to hit one switch and everything explodes or so xD. Very strange, imho. No harm meant^^

Thanks so far, i will be some days away and i wish everyone a good start in the new year.

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Re: Running SP leads into infinite Black screen
« Reply #3 on: Dec 29, 2017; 10:55 PM »
Thank you Morphy for the tips. Today i wanted to do as you told me, but today the compatibility mode i used the other day offered me the option Windows XP (service pack 3). This option was not available some days ago, idk why. But it ran perfectly in XP mode.

Now I am looking for mods to install. Is there any mod that comes preferably near to the original content from HGL, Stonehenge, maybe Abyss and HG Tokyo/Global too? Because i am not a big fan of to much modding in an unnatural direction, away from the basic game. For example, i saw a video where several Moloch bosses ran somewhere in the "wild" maps. That reminds me of theese Minecraft kids with their modded worlds, where they just need to hit one switch and everything explodes or so xD. Very strange, imho. No harm meant^^

Thanks so far, i will be some days away and i wish everyone a good start in the new year.

Well... my favourite mod is Nagahaku - you feel like a REAL hero wading through the demons.
I just wish it had permanent blood effects... some of the places would be dripping in gore!

Lost London is pretty cool, and Revival is good - the rest if the mods just seem to be smaller-time, item hacks and such.

My first port of call is any mod that allows for butt-loads of carrying space - I hate collecting things only to have to keep popping back to the stations to sell the junk off.
Not realistic, sure... but A] it's a game, and B] it's a game about twatting demons!?

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Re: Running SP leads into infinite Black screen
« Reply #4 on: Dec 31, 2017; 03:35 AM »
Been really wanting to play Nagahaku, but this is the only mod that crashes at start screen, can't for the life of me work out why when other mods are fine.

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Re: Running SP leads into infinite Black screen
« Reply #5 on: Dec 31, 2017; 05:33 PM »
Been really wanting to play Nagahaku, but this is the only mod that crashes at start screen, can't for the life of me work out why when other mods are fine.

OK - this is the listing on my Nagahaku install... check your file sizes against these (It'll take a while but it's a good check).

If your files don't match then you might have missed a step (maybe missed the update HG before adding the mods, or you have an older mod?)

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=02590961102228742864

Text file from DIR /s > files.txt

My working Nag.

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Re: Running SP leads into infinite Black screen
« Reply #6 on: Jan 01, 2018; 03:17 PM »
Hello folks. I wish everyone a happy and successful new year.

Some days ago i started Hellgate with the revival 1.5b2 mod and it ran pretty good except for two chrashes (both in Charing Cross Approach) and the fact, that the loot table seems to be broken in some way. There are noticeable many "Static Coils", "Convulsors" and a few other unique drops but not the whole range of stuff.

1. Can I install more than one mods at a time? For example the Revival 1.5b2 along with the "Nagahaku3.0b" and the "Revival un3.0"? Maybe one of theese would fix the loot problem.

2. How do i get the Zombot? I forgot about that^^

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Re: Running SP leads into infinite Black screen
« Reply #7 on: Jan 03, 2018; 10:05 AM »
Hi there Dangerseeker :) Welcome aboard, and apologies for the late reply.

1. Can I install more than one mods at a time? For example the Revival 1.5b2 along with the "Nagahaku3.0b" and the "Revival un3.0"? Maybe one of theese would fix the loot problem.

"Major" mods (as in, ones that modify many aspects of the game) are not compatible with each other. Installing one on top of another would essentially "overwrite" overlapping modifications, either leading to only the latest one applying or to a... rather bizarre experience.

You *may* be able to install "minor" mods (as in, "optionals" and ones that only modify specific tables/etc) on top of "major" ones, depending on the mods in question. For example, installing "Uniques are on me" or "Oculis drops for boils" on top of a Revival/Lost London/etc mod *should* be fine, since said "minor" mods would only modify (specific) loot tables.

Of course there's no guarantees in such experimentations, so backups are always advised :)

2. How do i get the Zombot? I forgot about that^^

That strictly depends on the mod(s) you're using. The original game and earlier mods didn't include the Zombot at all, if memory serves, while later mods would add ways of acquiring it, such as providing Zombot blueprints at vendors and materials as Champion drops.

Now I am looking for mods to install. Is there any mod that comes preferably near to the original content from HGL, Stonehenge, maybe Abyss and HG Tokyo/Global too?

Unfortunately there are currently no mods that add Stonehenge, Abyss, or Tokyo to the SP game. Some (ones that require the "new" launcher and 2.0 MP to install, mostly) do add Stonehenge weapons/assets/etc, but nothing quite close to adding maps.

If you're looking for an experience closer to the original, my personal view is that the Revival line is the least drastic of the available mods. The Unofficial series has expanded on its core quite a bit, providing additions that are somewhat faithful to the original as well, but it eventually comes down to one's view of such concepts, of course.

That's not to say that Nagahaku (even more so along with Dank's NagaOptionals) and Lost London aren't worth one's time, of course. They're fantastic mods in their own way; it's only their general "overhaul" approach that makes them better suited for experienced players who have exhausted the original game, in my view.

For example, i saw a video where several Moloch bosses ran somewhere in the "wild" maps. That reminds me of theese Minecraft kids with their modded worlds, where they just need to hit one switch and everything explodes or so xD. Very strange, imho. No harm meant^^

Rest assured there's no mod (currently anyway) that provides such an experience :P

The "Fanservice" series of videos is, essentially, another means of engaging with the 2038 MP community; players ask for "challenges", demonstrations, or otherwise bizarre tasks, and I employ GM powers to meet them. The concept is entirely humorous at its core, and such gameplay is by no means available outside of those videos.
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The above guides may be obsolete for vanilla SP, but they may still hold true to an extent for some mods and 2038.

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Re: Running SP leads into infinite Black screen
« Reply #8 on: Jan 03, 2018; 03:56 PM »
Hello sir and thank you for the detailed answer. It is an honourable assignment to keep Hellgate alive and it makes me cry to remember the game, knowing that all the additional content is lost, maybe forever, just because everything was bound to the dying online servers.

Whatever, perhaps you guys could in some way cooperate with the steam greenlight project. I am not sure, if it is still a thing. I would love to see Hellgate back in it´s old glory, still wondering about the issue with the ... let´s say strange loot table xD. If this won´t be fixed soon, i need an extra locker for all the static coil weapons ;D

And yes, the Zombot was in the original game during the first weeks. It must have been Halloween content in the release year 2007. I am sure about that, because i met my later clan leader during this period, when he sold me some missing Zombot parts. I had no chance to collect them by my own, because i got my collectors edition not in time. It was in customs for some weeks, i ordered it in Austria (for the first and last time). -.-

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Re: Running SP leads into infinite Black screen
« Reply #9 on: Jan 03, 2018; 10:55 PM »
How to get zombot in "Unofficial revival v3.0" ?

While installing mod select "Halloween event" on.
Then only play game - blueprint for zombot and all components is dropped like a "event loot" from all common monsters in the game.
Blueprint can be obtained from Nemo (Holborn or Teplar base) event quests too.

Good luck   ;)