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Title: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: michel741 on Oct 24, 2018; 05:06 PM
from here
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-10-24-hellgate-london-returns-to-steam#comments
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: jhstolemycat on Oct 24, 2018; 06:49 PM
oddly enough, this will have (or completely be) single player.  did any other version have SP, aside from Flagship's?
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: michel741 on Oct 24, 2018; 11:29 PM
==did any other version have SP, aside from Flagship's?

Perhaps chinese Hellgate Reborn did
http://www.hellgateaus.info/forum/hellgate-london-general/hellgate-reborn/msg55338/#msg55338
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: michel741 on Oct 24, 2018; 11:36 PM
I think they just converted content from Global to single player (shared stash would be great).
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: kumose on Oct 25, 2018; 05:14 AM
this is my wish coming true in its exact form. Only wish I could use my characters from the Tokyo server.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Seferoth on Oct 25, 2018; 11:07 AM
Awesome!
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: syakila on Oct 25, 2018; 03:55 PM
Very excited to play this.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: alonerhapsody on Oct 26, 2018; 12:08 AM
my god, its true???
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: NiKKeZ on Oct 26, 2018; 10:49 AM
It juts goes to show how enduring this IP is. To have the pleasure of playing the modified original single player version released by Flagship, the London 2038 project (which eats up so much of my leisure time!), and now a T3 single player version that includes the Tokyo content is like being locked in a sweet shop for a weekend when I was a kid!

I will definitely be playing this!

Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Seferoth on Oct 30, 2018; 05:26 PM
I lost all interest to other games after this announcement. It will be a long wait till 15th November.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: kumose on Nov 02, 2018; 12:01 AM
hey guys want to ask a few questions about the upcoming steam release of the game.

I am not familiar with the way Steam works, especially when it comes to solo play.

1. Would the save file be stored at Steam server, like the way multiplayer save files were?
2. If save files are saved in my pc, would I be able to use my old characters created before?
3. assuming #2 is possible, would I be able to use 'trade' function from the reanimator? gosh I don't even think about the case where I found a Hurricane with Summoner and can't do anything with it.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Malachor on Nov 02, 2018; 12:27 AM
hey guys want to ask a few questions about the upcoming steam release of the game.

I am not familiar with the way Steam works, especially when it comes to solo play.

1. Would the save file be stored at Steam server, like the way multiplayer save files were?
2. If save files are saved in my pc, would I be able to use my old characters created before?
3. assuming #2 is possible, would I be able to use 'trade' function from the reanimator? gosh I don't even think about the case where I found a Hurricane with Summoner and can't do anything with it.
I don't know for sure about your questions, we'll know more when it's actually out, but my guesses are:
1. Saves will be stored locally.
2. Perhaps if the character is from the previous hellgate global and those saves were stored locally, but if you mean hellgate london characters, then no, the games are just different enough for them to be incompatible.
3. no, I imagine that the trade function requires the characters to be from hellgate london, so it won't be compatible with hellgate global characters.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Kikina the templar on Nov 02, 2018; 12:50 AM
Steam is a cloud service, so in normal case is your gamesaves stored in your computer and synchronize with backup on steam servers. But game developers can support this scheme, or not.
My personal impression of this thing is such (it was already discussed at Discord):
"I think if this is not a fake at all, then steam Hellgate will be ONLINE singleplayer. I just can not believe that they would have been able to transfer whole Tokyo to SP. They just run the Global client without the chance to meet other players, with original premium items shop...
Basically, through SP play they will solve their worries with mmbbq..."   ;)
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: kumose on Nov 02, 2018; 12:58 AM
thanks for the quick response guys. hope there's shared storage :(

Online single player haha. why didn't anybody think of that before.

I guess we'll have to see what kind of tweaks they implemented for the single play
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Kikina the templar on Nov 02, 2018; 01:01 AM
In the announcement on Steam is also one interesting picture  ;D
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: kumose on Nov 02, 2018; 01:39 AM
that thing was near useless even in multi play  >:(
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Seferoth on Nov 02, 2018; 08:45 AM
The whole original game/campaign better be in the game or i will be not playing this.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Thepunk007 on Nov 02, 2018; 01:32 PM
Server announcement thingies = multiplayer confirmed! HGG is back baby!
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Seferoth on Nov 02, 2018; 09:39 PM
Server announcement thingies = multiplayer confirmed! HGG is back baby!
What server announcement? Source?
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: kumose on Nov 02, 2018; 10:48 PM
Server announcement thingies = multiplayer confirmed! HGG is back baby!
What server announcement? Source?

He's referring to the 'speaker' item Kikina posted, and I think it's meant to be a joke. :)
I'm also overreacting to things as the release is near
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: ralsar on Nov 02, 2018; 11:16 PM
It seems likely that the screenshot is just an old one from Hellgate: Global.  Can't see why you would need that item while offline.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: ralsar on Nov 08, 2018; 03:56 PM
Check out the latest news -> https://steamcommunity.com/games/939520/announcements/detail/1698315265993778339
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Seferoth on Nov 09, 2018; 10:02 PM
Check out the latest news -> https://steamcommunity.com/games/939520/announcements/detail/1698315265993778339
Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Exportforce on Nov 16, 2018; 11:41 AM
I'm going to stream this in a few minutes so hard :D
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: ralsar on Nov 16, 2018; 02:45 PM
I played it a bunch last night.  It is exactly the game we were playing when the Hellgate: Global servers went down back in the day.  The only real difference is the cash shop is gone and everything is purchasable for palladium instead.  You can buy the cash shop stuff from merchants just like anything else.

If you miss Hellgate: Global then it is less than $10 for everything.  I mean might as well have it installed right?

It does use the same save folders as your Revival install though so you'll want to make adjustments there.  Loading up my revival characters into Hellgate: Global was interesting, but ultimately didn't work out.  You'll want them separate.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: bladezx7 on Nov 16, 2018; 04:10 PM
Can we somehow trick dx10 back into this version?
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: XHD on Nov 16, 2018; 06:38 PM
Been trying to get reanimator working with the new steam release but its throwing tons of errors and not uncooking most files. Hopefully someone more skilled with coding can get it working.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Violet-n-Red on Nov 16, 2018; 09:47 PM
oooooh boy, now this is niteresting! all Global content in singlepalyer? *actual* singleplayer?! so now it is moddable?! i was expecting some things, but not this! really curious to see what modders can dig out of this release.

it may also kinda tear the modding comumnity apart (HGG content transfer kinda did that already, no?) since it's yet another version of the game and it probably won't be compatible with most mods that were created before.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Cyriel on Nov 17, 2018; 03:55 AM
So i saw this and i came running.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/939520/

- It is hellgate global, but single player.
- It launches without the tokyo expansion for stability reasons (news post, will be added later for free)
- It costs 8 bucks.
- It's on steam. This means it's not going anywhere, ever.
- It has MT's but feedback is positive.

This might be the only time they released a version of hellgate anything outside of revival that is going to persist forever.

Rift coil awareness day persists. I am completely blown away by this.

Here's the only thing i need to know
- Is it the ORIGINAL version of the techsmith 314 quest in chocolate park (read: exceptional dialogue) or is it the GLOBAL version with the censorship shenanigans.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: jhstolemycat on Nov 17, 2018; 08:51 AM
- It has MT's but feedback is positive.

Here's the only thing i need to know
- Is it the ORIGINAL version of the techsmith 314 quest in chocolate park (read: exceptional dialogue) or is it the GLOBAL version with the censorship shenanigans.

What do you mean by MT's?  I have the game and if you mean micro-transactions, it doesn't have any.  It does have the premium items like those resurrection things, but you buy those with Palladium.

As for 314, they replaced the oracle with a book, so it's not the same.  I laughed so hard when Lucious said that 314 was his friend.  Not so in OG Hellgate!
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Violet-n-Red on Nov 17, 2018; 09:59 AM
a book? instead of a demon? what?!  :o

does the guy now wears an opened book on his face upon completion of that one quest or did they rework the quest and soemthing different happens now?

also, is there a date for when Tokyo content will be added?
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: jhstolemycat on Nov 17, 2018; 10:32 AM

does the guy now wears an opened book on his face upon completion of that one quest or did they rework the quest and soemthing different happens now?

also, is there a date for when Tokyo content will be added?

Disappointingly, no, he doesn't wear the book.  :(  They took all the fun and humor out of the written dialogue, though Lucious sounds like a discount Captain Kirk imitator now for whatever reason.

As for Tokyo, nope.  Guess it's whenever they fix the stability issue.  O_O
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Cyriel on Nov 18, 2018; 06:47 AM
- It has MT's but feedback is positive.

Here's the only thing i need to know
- Is it the ORIGINAL version of the techsmith 314 quest in chocolate park (read: exceptional dialogue) or is it the GLOBAL version with the censorship shenanigans.

What do you mean by MT's?  I have the game and if you mean micro-transactions, it doesn't have any.  It does have the premium items like those resurrection things, but you buy those with Palladium.

As for 314, they replaced the oracle with a book, so it's not the same.  I laughed so hard when Lucious said that 314 was his friend.  Not so in OG Hellgate!
Yeah i wrote this before i touched it. There are no MT's, there is NO good version of 314, there is a completely new and fantastic framedrop problem instead of the memory leak bug that global had until it died and overall i am mildly annoyed.

3rd time the game launched, still didn't manage to do a stable release. Just goddamn.

And the really stupid part? 314's quest literally uses the same face asset they used for the OG quest, so you can see lacerations and wounds on his face mid quest where the demon would be attached, but instead there's no demon and he's a horrible hippie dialogue wise.

They completely ruined him in global and this didn't even revert that.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: bladezx7 on Nov 18, 2018; 10:06 AM
THe fps drop is the same as the original HL had at launch right? Global did not have that?
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: michel741 on Nov 18, 2018; 03:18 PM
Still no shared stash! This game definitely need for some hacking, cause, at least,  mail and trade stations was very helpful in Global.
XHD says that reanimator wan't work, anyone tried a MMBBQ? Would be interesting.
I load a lot of chars from Nagahaku mod and got a different results. Chars that wears cybernet (hunter TCV4) armor wasn't displayed in character select screen; chars with TCV4 templar armor was shown in armor mesh without color\textures except helms (has textures) and this items disappeared after loading; and - MOST INTERESTING - cabalist uber-armor shows in char select screen normally, but - after loading - they transform into VARIOUS COSTUMES and HATS, in 1 inventary cell size (chars has wow inventory size activated, if so), with DAMAGE and CRIT CHANCE bonuses and stamina feed.
Other effects - mythic mods become "set" and make game crashes; one char has double-edged item (recognized by this steam release version) and other char has expanded stash #1 like in Global - the short under section but unaccessible - there were items but grey-shaded and can't get them.
Title: Re: Hellgate London going to Steam in November, with Tokyo expansion
Post by: Kikina the templar on Nov 18, 2018; 08:46 PM
All vesions SP Hellgate always trying load all characters found in folder with savegame positions.
If program found some unknown error, then is character rejected. In other case is loaded. Each item in backpack/stash is then explored separately.
Each item have unique itemcode, which is searched in itemlist. If program found line with this number, item appear in backpack, if no, item is deleted. Because it is very laborious make changes in original item list from vanilla version, all modders (and makers of Global version too) using old item codes for newly created or changed items. This causes the item change in a different version of game.
For example: "Fawkes force five" have in all exist version of Hellgate same item code, then character which own it can take this item to any version of game. But Talox Dye kit from Revival turns in Steam version to Luck box, because koreans using line with old itemcode for newly created item.

Of course, it can be used to cheat  :D
If someone need testing character for Hellgate: Steam, this man is volunteer.
Ranks not working, and maybe is here some another bugs, this character was born in Revival...